1 00:00:07,070 --> 00:00:04,880 this story is extraordinary especially 2 00:00:10,759 --> 00:00:07,080 if it's trouble it all started in the 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:10,769 desert just north of Las Vegas a local 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:12,090 scientist who's worked at Groom Lake 5 00:00:16,820 --> 00:00:14,610 said to beware top-secret weapon systems 6 00:00:18,740 --> 00:00:16,830 have been tested over the years he has 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:18,750 asked that his identity be shielded 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:20,850 exactly what's going on up there what's 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:22,410 going on up there could be the most 10 00:00:25,630 --> 00:00:24,490 important event in history 11 00:00:28,660 --> 00:00:25,640 [Music] 12 00:00:30,580 --> 00:00:28,670 physical contact and proof from another 13 00:00:34,510 --> 00:00:30,590 another system another planet and other 14 00:00:35,799 --> 00:00:34,520 intelligence what would happen to you if 15 00:00:39,310 --> 00:00:35,809 the government learned that you were 16 00:00:41,319 --> 00:00:39,320 giving us this information you just 17 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:41,329 wanted to stay alive maybe this has been 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:45,290 kept from us for a good reason sir how 19 00:00:51,490 --> 00:00:48,489 do we know you are who you say you are 20 00:00:53,979 --> 00:00:51,500 my name's Bob Lazar I'm known for 21 00:01:00,730 --> 00:00:53,989 working at a classified base and reverse 22 00:01:05,470 --> 00:01:04,930 you are the batter can we ever be made 23 00:01:13,390 --> 00:01:05,480 whole 24 00:01:16,870 --> 00:01:13,400 before not believe I have no motivation 25 00:01:20,710 --> 00:01:16,880 to live the science and the technology 26 00:01:22,780 --> 00:01:20,720 can change us the boys look to the skies 27 00:01:33,450 --> 00:01:22,790 for answers 28 00:01:37,990 --> 00:01:35,260 today on the show 29 00:01:42,070 --> 00:01:38,000 Jeremy Korbel returns to talk about his 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:42,080 latest film bob lazar area 51 and flying 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:44,210 saucers and one of the things that 32 00:01:50,020 --> 00:01:46,210 critics say is like well he was with a 33 00:01:52,180 --> 00:01:50,030 subcontractor holy hell do you know it's 34 00:01:53,620 --> 00:01:52,190 harder to get a job with a subcontractor 35 00:01:56,140 --> 00:01:53,630 to go to Los Alamos you need to prove 36 00:01:58,570 --> 00:01:56,150 your credentials more to do that than if 37 00:02:01,300 --> 00:01:58,580 you get hired just by Los Alamos he had 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:01,310 to present credentials in order to be 39 00:02:06,730 --> 00:02:04,370 hired by a subcontractor and I know for 40 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:06,740 a fact and have proven ten times over 41 00:02:10,270 --> 00:02:08,330 and so has George Knapp that he worked 42 00:02:13,390 --> 00:02:10,280 as a physicist at the maison particle 43 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:13,400 accelerator at Los Alamos so he was 44 00:02:17,170 --> 00:02:15,680 there he was a physicist he was in 45 00:02:18,610 --> 00:02:17,180 security briefings with people that I 46 00:02:20,500 --> 00:02:18,620 have proved all their credentials and I 47 00:02:21,910 --> 00:02:20,510 proved that years ago and George Knapp 48 00:02:24,490 --> 00:02:21,920 proved that years ago George Knapp was 49 00:02:26,710 --> 00:02:24,500 in Los Alamos with Bob Lazar on camera 50 00:02:28,510 --> 00:02:26,720 and there are some snips the hub of 51 00:02:30,820 --> 00:02:28,520 going around Los Alamos in my movie so 52 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:30,830 so look everybody could just kind of 53 00:02:35,979 --> 00:02:33,050 like focus on that if they want and then 54 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:35,989 they're gonna miss the big picture we 55 00:02:39,310 --> 00:02:37,730 will address it it's important to 56 00:02:51,010 --> 00:02:39,320 address and I feel like we just [\h__\h] 57 00:02:54,180 --> 00:02:51,020 addressed it this is somewhere in the 58 00:02:54,190 --> 00:03:15,539 [Music] 59 00:03:21,399 --> 00:03:18,009 welcome to somewhere in the skies I'm 60 00:03:23,710 --> 00:03:21,409 your host Ryan Sprague former government 61 00:03:26,890 --> 00:03:23,720 physicist Bob Lazar made headlines 62 00:03:28,990 --> 00:03:26,900 worldwide in 1989 when he came forward 63 00:03:33,399 --> 00:03:29,000 with his account of reverse engineering 64 00:03:35,770 --> 00:03:33,409 an alien spacecraft for the US military 65 00:03:39,190 --> 00:03:35,780 the reason the public even knows the 66 00:03:41,170 --> 00:03:39,200 name area 51 is because Lazar talked 67 00:03:44,380 --> 00:03:41,180 about the work he did at the formerly 68 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:44,390 secret military base burdened with a 69 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:46,970 revolutionary secret he had to choose 70 00:03:52,509 --> 00:03:49,090 between his oath to his country or his 71 00:03:55,300 --> 00:03:52,519 conscience his testimony remains the 72 00:03:58,630 --> 00:03:55,310 most controversial and important UFO 73 00:04:01,210 --> 00:03:58,640 story of all time and today we tackle 74 00:04:04,270 --> 00:04:01,220 this highly controversial upcoming film 75 00:04:07,180 --> 00:04:04,280 by Jeremy Corbyn it investigates 76 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:07,190 lazarre's groundbreaking claims and the 77 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:09,890 devastating impact they had on his life 78 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:12,730 over the course of the last 30 years 79 00:04:17,860 --> 00:04:15,410 including rare and never before revealed 80 00:04:21,310 --> 00:04:17,870 footage guaranteed to alter the 81 00:04:24,310 --> 00:04:21,320 landscape of the debate Lazar blew the 82 00:04:28,719 --> 00:04:24,320 whistle shocked the world then went 83 00:04:31,330 --> 00:04:28,729 silent until now so without further ado 84 00:04:34,530 --> 00:04:31,340 here's our conversation with Jeremy 85 00:04:38,850 --> 00:04:37,140 Jeremie welcome back to somewhere in the 86 00:04:40,260 --> 00:04:38,860 skies it's so good to have you back man 87 00:04:41,580 --> 00:04:40,270 thanks Ryan it's always a pleasure 88 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:41,590 really glad to be on your show I'm 89 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:43,210 really glad your audience gets to here 90 00:04:48,210 --> 00:04:45,850 before the movie premiere what's going 91 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:48,220 on the hype is just building and 92 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:49,930 building I'm excited I'm going to 93 00:04:55,740 --> 00:04:53,050 personally be at your premiere in Los 94 00:04:58,830 --> 00:04:55,750 Angeles with my fellow rogue planet 95 00:05:00,450 --> 00:04:58,840 seers Jason and Maureen so I can't tell 96 00:05:02,580 --> 00:05:00,460 you man like just how excited we are 97 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:02,590 this film has been over 30 years in the 98 00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:05,170 making and I'm ready to dive deep 99 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:08,560 tonight meet you Jason Maureen in Los 100 00:05:13,260 --> 00:05:10,810 Angeles at a red-carpet premiere for the 101 00:05:16,470 --> 00:05:13,270 Bob Lazar film you know what what could 102 00:05:18,180 --> 00:05:16,480 go wrong that's gonna be crazy I can't 103 00:05:20,580 --> 00:05:18,190 even imagine especially if drinks are 104 00:05:23,010 --> 00:05:20,590 being served they will be and by the way 105 00:05:26,220 --> 00:05:23,020 it's going to be hosted by a George 106 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:26,230 Knapp me and Bob Lazar I mean I'm gonna 107 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:28,450 have him there with me and I think I 108 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:29,710 have an interesting way that I'm gonna 109 00:05:33,270 --> 00:05:31,840 engage the audience at the end so it 110 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:33,280 should be a very interesting night if 111 00:05:36,750 --> 00:05:34,810 anybody's in LA they're still actually 112 00:05:38,250 --> 00:05:36,760 places or tickets left I don't know when 113 00:05:40,230 --> 00:05:38,260 this is airing but there are tickets 114 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:40,240 available stone yeah this is gonna air I 115 00:05:44,130 --> 00:05:42,160 think right before the premiere days 116 00:05:46,140 --> 00:05:44,140 before so we'll definitely if anyone's 117 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:46,150 listening in the area or not in the area 118 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:47,890 please hop on this we're gonna be 119 00:05:52,770 --> 00:05:50,560 covering it extensively with rogue 120 00:05:54,750 --> 00:05:52,780 planet articles reviews everything my 121 00:05:56,010 --> 00:05:54,760 man so we'll give you everything we got 122 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:56,020 love it thank you 123 00:06:00,660 --> 00:05:58,450 of course so dude let's let's throw you 124 00:06:03,030 --> 00:06:00,670 a softball first and foremost here just 125 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:03,040 to get everyone caught up who may not be 126 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:05,710 too familiar with the Lazar story but 127 00:06:11,340 --> 00:06:08,890 how did you personally how did your 128 00:06:13,470 --> 00:06:11,350 interest first em in terms of the Lazar 129 00:06:17,340 --> 00:06:13,480 story and what type of journey did you 130 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:17,350 take in him agreeing to do this with you 131 00:06:26,970 --> 00:06:20,290 I can't imagine that was an easy task it 132 00:06:32,430 --> 00:06:26,980 has not been a smooth road it's like 133 00:06:36,060 --> 00:06:32,440 it's like Bigfoot you got like the 134 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:36,070 impossible okay so look man in 1989 I 135 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:37,210 was 13 years old 136 00:06:41,930 --> 00:06:39,370 and I heard on the radio like a lot of 137 00:06:44,909 --> 00:06:41,940 people I heard the voice of Bob Lazar 138 00:06:47,879 --> 00:06:44,919 talking about the propulsion system the 139 00:06:50,580 --> 00:06:47,889 gravity wave amplification system too 140 00:06:53,580 --> 00:06:50,590 warp and Bend space-time to almost 141 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:53,590 literally fall into the position and the 142 00:06:57,209 --> 00:06:55,090 location and time-space that you want to 143 00:06:59,159 --> 00:06:57,219 go very different than reactionary 144 00:07:00,659 --> 00:06:59,169 propulsion system where like everything 145 00:07:04,559 --> 00:07:00,669 we have pushed something out the back 146 00:07:07,219 --> 00:07:04,569 you go forward that flipped my script 147 00:07:11,429 --> 00:07:07,229 when I heard that when I when I 148 00:07:15,450 --> 00:07:11,439 understood that it altered the way that 149 00:07:17,429 --> 00:07:15,460 I viewed the possibility of are we alone 150 00:07:18,749 --> 00:07:17,439 in the universe are they visiting here 151 00:07:20,610 --> 00:07:18,759 the big questions that we all want to 152 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:20,620 know I had never really thought about it 153 00:07:25,469 --> 00:07:22,240 before but when the science and the 154 00:07:27,809 --> 00:07:25,479 technology described from Bob Lazar kind 155 00:07:31,589 --> 00:07:27,819 of hit my ears and went into my mind I 156 00:07:33,269 --> 00:07:31,599 my curiosity was weaponized that was the 157 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:33,279 moment when I could no longer be a 158 00:07:38,570 --> 00:07:35,710 passive observer and listener and I 159 00:07:43,649 --> 00:07:38,580 needed to find out more I like you 160 00:07:47,550 --> 00:07:43,659 wanted to know is this story true fast 161 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:47,560 forward 30 years later and I've got a 162 00:07:53,999 --> 00:07:50,409 film coming out and I've been able to to 163 00:07:55,890 --> 00:07:54,009 get to the core of this story very 164 00:07:58,379 --> 00:07:55,900 intimately to the core of the story 165 00:08:00,179 --> 00:07:58,389 everybody involved and you know that's 166 00:08:03,089 --> 00:08:00,189 thanks to my mentor in journalism George 167 00:08:04,379 --> 00:08:03,099 Knapp absolutely number one he's the one 168 00:08:07,290 --> 00:08:04,389 that broke the story he's the one that 169 00:08:08,909 --> 00:08:07,300 has kept this story in the public eye 170 00:08:11,429 --> 00:08:08,919 and attention because that has not been 171 00:08:13,350 --> 00:08:11,439 Bob Bob has not done that okay 172 00:08:15,809 --> 00:08:13,360 bob has always he is allergic to 173 00:08:18,420 --> 00:08:15,819 interviews so that's because of George 174 00:08:20,999 --> 00:08:18,430 now despite the speculation no one who 175 00:08:23,519 --> 00:08:21,009 knew area 51 from the inside ever talked 176 00:08:27,929 --> 00:08:23,529 publicly about the saucer stories well 177 00:08:30,420 --> 00:08:27,939 there's several uh actually nine flying 178 00:08:33,089 --> 00:08:30,430 saucers flying discs that are out there 179 00:08:35,130 --> 00:08:33,099 of extraterrestrial origin the live 180 00:08:37,199 --> 00:08:35,140 interview with the shadowy dentist drew 181 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:37,209 international attention portions were 182 00:08:41,819 --> 00:08:39,610 broadcast by radio and six European 183 00:08:43,889 --> 00:08:41,829 countries and in a nationally televised 184 00:08:45,889 --> 00:08:43,899 TV special in Japan doing the Nahanni 185 00:08:48,020 --> 00:08:45,899 under McDonnell Ginjo an acute Thunder 186 00:08:51,150 --> 00:08:48,030 actually nine 187 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:51,160 flying saucers flying discs despite 188 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:53,410 numerous inquiries and feelers dennis 189 00:08:57,930 --> 00:08:55,810 has remained anonymous until now his 190 00:09:00,120 --> 00:08:57,940 real name is Robert Lazar a young 191 00:09:02,190 --> 00:09:00,130 scientist with eclectic interests the 192 00:09:04,140 --> 00:09:02,200 choice of Dennis was an inside joke he 193 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:04,150 says that's the name of his superior at 194 00:09:08,010 --> 00:09:06,640 Groom Lake it wasn't a joke to Dennis he 195 00:09:09,660 --> 00:09:08,020 called right after he said you have any 196 00:09:12,150 --> 00:09:09,670 idea what we're gonna do to you now and 197 00:09:14,100 --> 00:09:12,160 I said well no he hung up the phone 198 00:09:16,140 --> 00:09:14,110 Lazare story is by any standards 199 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:16,150 fantastic he says he's telling it in 200 00:09:20,610 --> 00:09:18,130 order to protect himself he says he was 201 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:20,620 hired to work at an area called s4 which 202 00:09:25,650 --> 00:09:22,570 is a few miles south of groom Lake and 203 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:25,660 s4 he says are flying saucers antimatter 204 00:09:29,940 --> 00:09:27,970 reactors and other working examples of 205 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:29,950 technology that is seemingly beyond 206 00:09:34,230 --> 00:09:32,530 human capabilities we all need to thank 207 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:34,240 George Knapp for that but that was my 208 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:36,130 start ma'am that was how it all started 209 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:38,290 for me with UFOs everything hearing 210 00:09:43,380 --> 00:09:40,690 about the disks the propulsion system 211 00:09:46,380 --> 00:09:43,390 how they traversed space time and I 212 00:09:50,250 --> 00:09:46,390 wanted to know is it true and that's 213 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:50,260 where we are today I had the amazing and 214 00:09:55,710 --> 00:09:53,530 rare opportunity to Mike Lazar when he 215 00:09:58,650 --> 00:09:55,720 spoke at the the International UFO 216 00:09:59,910 --> 00:09:58,660 Congress and like I said yeah that was a 217 00:10:02,010 --> 00:09:59,920 moment I'll never forget 218 00:10:04,950 --> 00:10:02,020 you know seeing this genuine nervousness 219 00:10:07,590 --> 00:10:04,960 in this man this isn't a guy who's out 220 00:10:08,010 --> 00:10:07,600 there yelling to everyone what's going 221 00:10:10,830 --> 00:10:08,020 on 222 00:10:12,810 --> 00:10:10,840 he was extremely reluctant to ever come 223 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:12,820 forward first and foremost which we'll 224 00:10:16,350 --> 00:10:13,210 get to 225 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:16,360 but even that many years later when he 226 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:18,850 gave this this brief Q&A with George 227 00:10:24,210 --> 00:10:21,490 Knapp at the Congress you could just 228 00:10:26,750 --> 00:10:24,220 tell like this wasn't easy for him it's 229 00:10:30,780 --> 00:10:26,760 you know it's an interesting thing it's 230 00:10:33,090 --> 00:10:30,790 extremely easy for internet trolls and 231 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:33,100 people who are on the outside looking in 232 00:10:42,030 --> 00:10:37,410 to look at a story that is fundamentally 233 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:42,040 hard to grasp and then to dehumanize the 234 00:10:46,740 --> 00:10:44,410 messenger this is something that is done 235 00:10:47,790 --> 00:10:46,750 over and over it's done in warfare this 236 00:10:49,860 --> 00:10:47,800 is something that is done by 237 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:49,870 intelligence agencies this is something 238 00:10:54,990 --> 00:10:52,510 that is done so you can dismiss the 239 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:55,000 message by dehumanizing the messenger 240 00:11:01,380 --> 00:10:57,730 you know and I gotta say the critics of 241 00:11:01,769 --> 00:11:01,390 Bob Lazar have been holding the mic for 242 00:11:04,889 --> 00:11:01,779 the last 243 00:11:07,379 --> 00:11:04,899 thirty years and it's time to take the 244 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:07,389 mic back and that's exactly what we're 245 00:11:10,980 --> 00:11:09,850 gonna do on December 3rd at the world 246 00:11:13,350 --> 00:11:10,990 premiere in Los Angeles 247 00:11:16,829 --> 00:11:13,360 it is simply time to take the mic back 248 00:11:19,799 --> 00:11:16,839 you know Bob Bob has never been one to 249 00:11:21,389 --> 00:11:19,809 try to correct everybody on his story 250 00:11:23,629 --> 00:11:21,399 and what's been going on he disengaged 251 00:11:26,489 --> 00:11:23,639 he came forward to protect himself 252 00:11:29,460 --> 00:11:26,499 whether you believe it or not that's the 253 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:29,470 truth now it is time it is time that the 254 00:11:36,059 --> 00:11:32,850 story is told to to new generations 255 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:36,069 think about it thirty years ago was when 256 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:37,930 he came forward with George Knapp so now 257 00:11:42,569 --> 00:11:39,730 we have the opportunity for two new 258 00:11:44,129 --> 00:11:42,579 generations to hear this story so it's 259 00:11:46,949 --> 00:11:44,139 happening whether you like it or not 260 00:11:49,189 --> 00:11:46,959 let's get in terms of you know your 261 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:49,199 involvement with this with George and 262 00:11:55,319 --> 00:11:52,930 Lazar you embedded yourself into 263 00:11:57,030 --> 00:11:55,329 lazarre's life for this which is you 264 00:12:00,210 --> 00:11:57,040 know they did the job of a documentary 265 00:12:02,429 --> 00:12:00,220 filmmaker in many respects so in terms 266 00:12:05,220 --> 00:12:02,439 of like watching your your your trailer 267 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:05,230 recently you get this really personal 268 00:12:10,049 --> 00:12:07,689 look at Lazar even in the trailer that 269 00:12:13,019 --> 00:12:10,059 not many people are used to so what was 270 00:12:14,999 --> 00:12:13,029 it like getting so close to this almost 271 00:12:17,340 --> 00:12:15,009 mythological guy like you said he's 272 00:12:19,860 --> 00:12:17,350 almost like a Bigfoot to many of us out 273 00:12:22,470 --> 00:12:19,870 there well luckily I have a charming 274 00:12:24,319 --> 00:12:22,480 personality and people allow me to you 275 00:12:28,079 --> 00:12:24,329 know live in their homes and hang out 276 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:28,089 you know look man it's like this if you 277 00:12:31,740 --> 00:12:29,410 want to know the truth about something 278 00:12:33,749 --> 00:12:31,750 you can't you know try to investigate 279 00:12:35,249 --> 00:12:33,759 something you know an inch deep you know 280 00:12:37,710 --> 00:12:35,259 you need to do the deep dive you need to 281 00:12:40,079 --> 00:12:37,720 go in there and you need to really try 282 00:12:42,119 --> 00:12:40,089 to understand and and if you're gonna do 283 00:12:43,499 --> 00:12:42,129 that you also have to be willing to tell 284 00:12:46,049 --> 00:12:43,509 the complete truth the whole truth 285 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:46,059 nothing but the truth you know so that 286 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:48,970 was luckily a position that I found 287 00:12:54,329 --> 00:12:51,250 myself in and and that's you know with 288 00:12:57,179 --> 00:12:54,339 such a reluctant UFO Messiah as we have 289 00:13:00,210 --> 00:12:57,189 in Bob Lazar you know that was a task 290 00:13:03,900 --> 00:13:00,220 but you know look Bob is also a friend 291 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:03,910 I've come to appreciate who Bob is as a 292 00:13:09,119 --> 00:13:06,610 human being separate from his claims of 293 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:09,129 UFOs how he conducts himself with his 294 00:13:14,310 --> 00:13:12,490 business United nuclear how he lives 295 00:13:17,790 --> 00:13:14,320 with integrity 296 00:13:20,130 --> 00:13:17,800 there's not one person in Bob's life not 297 00:13:23,550 --> 00:13:20,140 one person from his wife of 18 years 298 00:13:26,460 --> 00:13:23,560 who's slept next to him for 18 years and 299 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:26,470 and you know his his mom who for the 300 00:13:31,290 --> 00:13:28,810 first time ever went on camera with me 301 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:31,300 for this movie that there's not one 302 00:13:37,230 --> 00:13:34,210 person in his life who is trying to 303 00:13:39,450 --> 00:13:37,240 contradict what Bob is saying that they 304 00:13:41,940 --> 00:13:39,460 believe him and they believe him because 305 00:13:44,580 --> 00:13:41,950 they were there with him and so you're 306 00:13:46,530 --> 00:13:44,590 gonna see some of that in my film so as 307 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:46,540 a journalist that as a filmmaker but 308 00:13:52,140 --> 00:13:49,090 also I think just me like as a person 309 00:13:56,670 --> 00:13:52,150 it's like that's how I like to tell a 310 00:14:00,060 --> 00:13:56,680 story I want to know the truth and in 311 00:14:02,070 --> 00:14:00,070 doing that I'm hoping the viewer can 312 00:14:06,980 --> 00:14:02,080 then come on that journey with me 313 00:14:08,730 --> 00:14:06,990 this movie is next-level [\h__\h] this is 314 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:08,740 really something else 315 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:11,770 Ryan because what I wanted to do was I 316 00:14:16,050 --> 00:14:14,290 wanted to reach a generation that has 317 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:16,060 yet to be reached that wasn't even born 318 00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:18,850 when Bob told his story with George in 319 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:21,760 1989 so as you know I got Mickey Rourke 320 00:14:26,940 --> 00:14:24,880 as narrator for this you know he very I 321 00:14:28,650 --> 00:14:26,950 am so grateful for Mickey he has such a 322 00:14:30,750 --> 00:14:28,660 great voice and we have a history in a 323 00:14:31,940 --> 00:14:30,760 past and and he really want to help me 324 00:14:33,769 --> 00:14:31,950 out 325 00:14:36,259 --> 00:14:33,779 and this lemma is really strong under 326 00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:36,269 the savannahs how much can a man take 327 00:14:40,819 --> 00:14:38,220 before submissive a and there's a does 328 00:14:44,180 --> 00:14:40,829 he say back into the shadows that formed 329 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:44,190 him again how much can a man take before 330 00:14:50,780 --> 00:14:46,970 he should mention of the weight the 331 00:14:54,410 --> 00:14:50,790 consequences he trusts as he fade back 332 00:14:56,900 --> 00:14:54,420 into the shadows that formed him rigid 333 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:56,910 lash out the Carver's words into your 334 00:15:01,250 --> 00:14:59,010 flesh so there there we go 335 00:15:04,670 --> 00:15:01,260 Mickey Rourke is narrator yeah and the 336 00:15:07,069 --> 00:15:04,680 movie is just extremely uplifted my if 337 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:07,079 you remember go back years Ryan when I 338 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:10,410 said I started to make films okay the my 339 00:15:16,430 --> 00:15:12,930 first goal I probably told you was to 340 00:15:19,250 --> 00:15:16,440 uplift the visual medium and I hope and 341 00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:19,260 I know that I have done that with this 342 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:20,880 film from the animation to the 343 00:15:26,329 --> 00:15:23,730 soundtrack from to amazing all you know 344 00:15:28,250 --> 00:15:26,339 audio musicians just audio engineers to 345 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:28,260 to Mickey Rourke doing the narration 346 00:15:35,269 --> 00:15:31,649 this movie has already struck a chord 347 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:35,279 with who are not into UFOs and it's 348 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:37,050 gonna continue to do so it's a sonic 349 00:15:41,990 --> 00:15:39,930 boom so I'm just celebrating now oh yeah 350 00:15:45,949 --> 00:15:42,000 man I mean in here's the thing like as a 351 00:15:47,540 --> 00:15:45,959 journalist it is my job also to remain 352 00:15:50,329 --> 00:15:47,550 objective so while I may not always 353 00:15:52,910 --> 00:15:50,339 agree with some of possibly your 354 00:15:55,550 --> 00:15:52,920 personal conclusions or even the 355 00:16:00,199 --> 00:15:55,560 individuals you interview in your films 356 00:16:02,509 --> 00:16:00,209 the fact is that your style your voice 357 00:16:05,210 --> 00:16:02,519 what you've done for the UFO field in 358 00:16:06,590 --> 00:16:05,220 terms of filmmaking it is elevated it to 359 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:06,600 a level that I don't think many people 360 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:09,810 have ever seen and I know there's gonna 361 00:16:15,230 --> 00:16:11,250 be people out there who think you know 362 00:16:17,780 --> 00:16:15,240 I'm just I'm a fanboy of you but there's 363 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:17,790 two things here one yes I highly respect 364 00:16:22,780 --> 00:16:20,010 the work you're doing and - I think you 365 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:22,790 pick topics that are not only 366 00:16:28,819 --> 00:16:25,769 thought-provoking and curious topics 367 00:16:30,860 --> 00:16:28,829 they're they're essential in terms of 368 00:16:33,949 --> 00:16:30,870 you know the things you've decided to 369 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:33,959 cover because of the evidence the 370 00:16:40,490 --> 00:16:37,290 evidence is very very important so many 371 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:40,500 UFO documentaries out there have nothing 372 00:16:44,540 --> 00:16:43,110 to stand on absolutely nothing let's 373 00:16:45,140 --> 00:16:44,550 let's get to the core of something right 374 00:16:46,970 --> 00:16:45,150 here 375 00:16:48,620 --> 00:16:46,980 I've got no [\h__\h] problem calling 376 00:16:50,090 --> 00:16:48,630 people out for [\h__\h] so now that I 377 00:16:52,730 --> 00:16:50,100 can swear I can be myself 378 00:16:56,330 --> 00:16:52,740 here we go here's the deal man there are 379 00:16:59,330 --> 00:16:56,340 more snakes and charlatans and half-wit 380 00:17:02,270 --> 00:16:59,340 just parrots in this field than any 381 00:17:04,700 --> 00:17:02,280 other field I'm sorry it's true thank 382 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:04,710 you most most of you all I'll say it you 383 00:17:09,650 --> 00:17:06,690 don't gotta Ryan I am happy saying it 384 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:09,660 most you all being sold a bucket of lies 385 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:11,970 and you are just happily eating it up 386 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:14,250 now obviously not the fans listening to 387 00:17:18,050 --> 00:17:16,050 this podcast you listening to Ryan I 388 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:18,060 mean you know you've got good taste you 389 00:17:22,790 --> 00:17:19,890 know he's he's you know he's a great 390 00:17:25,790 --> 00:17:22,800 great host for this but I'm just saying 391 00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:25,800 it is true and it is sad so people need 392 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:27,839 to snap out of it wake the [\h__\h] up and 393 00:17:32,660 --> 00:17:30,930 start to understand that all this BS and 394 00:17:34,550 --> 00:17:32,670 I don't even name names because the deal 395 00:17:36,380 --> 00:17:34,560 is that gives them power gives them a 396 00:17:37,700 --> 00:17:36,390 platform they don't even deserve it but 397 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:37,710 you know all the people I'm talking 398 00:17:42,020 --> 00:17:40,530 about all these you know fake messiahs 399 00:17:43,580 --> 00:17:42,030 and people are gonna save the world with 400 00:17:44,990 --> 00:17:43,590 disclosure and all these people that are 401 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:45,000 telling you all these things they have 402 00:17:48,410 --> 00:17:46,650 not a single piece of shred of evidence 403 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:48,420 or anybody else to back them up because 404 00:17:54,670 --> 00:17:50,610 eyes are other charlatans friends I do 405 00:17:58,610 --> 00:17:54,680 not focus on those stories I will never 406 00:18:01,250 --> 00:17:58,620 focus my camera on an individual who I 407 00:18:03,950 --> 00:18:01,260 think is being deceptive not from day 408 00:18:06,380 --> 00:18:03,960 one and I'll quit in the middle of day 409 00:18:09,290 --> 00:18:06,390 one if I ever started down that road the 410 00:18:11,780 --> 00:18:09,300 films you get from me are all about the 411 00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:11,790 extraordinary beliefs of credible 412 00:18:17,780 --> 00:18:15,600 individuals I may not completely agree 413 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:17,790 with a cosmology that somebody presents 414 00:18:22,370 --> 00:18:20,250 in one of my films however I will never 415 00:18:24,170 --> 00:18:22,380 point a camera at somebody who I think 416 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:24,180 is intentionally deceiving the public 417 00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:25,110 never will 418 00:18:30,020 --> 00:18:28,080 that's it so yeah that's what you get in 419 00:18:32,060 --> 00:18:30,030 with my films man you know hardcore I 420 00:18:33,860 --> 00:18:32,070 mean I believe in I believe in the work 421 00:18:35,690 --> 00:18:33,870 that I've put out and you have to and I 422 00:18:38,750 --> 00:18:35,700 mean let's let's sort of get into that 423 00:18:41,060 --> 00:18:38,760 man if we're gonna go there there is so 424 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:41,070 much controversy behind less our story 425 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:44,490 and for me I have to say one of the 426 00:18:48,770 --> 00:18:46,170 biggest ones for me has always been 427 00:18:51,860 --> 00:18:48,780 bob's credentials his education this 428 00:18:53,930 --> 00:18:51,870 comes up so [\h__\h] often when it comes 429 00:18:56,030 --> 00:18:53,940 to this story that it it almost makes me 430 00:18:57,260 --> 00:18:56,040 sick I have my own personal opinions on 431 00:18:59,660 --> 00:18:57,270 how important that actually 432 00:19:02,150 --> 00:18:59,670 is but I would hear from you man you 433 00:19:04,250 --> 00:19:02,160 know Bob you know claims to have worked 434 00:19:06,770 --> 00:19:04,260 at los alamos not claims that's that's 435 00:19:09,890 --> 00:19:06,780 been documented at this point but for 436 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:09,900 those out there who this is the one 437 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:13,290 thing they stand on in terms of proving 438 00:19:17,660 --> 00:19:16,110 Bob Lazar story is not real what do you 439 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:17,670 have to say about this whole thing 440 00:19:23,390 --> 00:19:21,570 what are his credentials and how how can 441 00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:23,400 we get to the bottom of that yeah it's 442 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:24,720 amazing you know this you know 443 00:19:29,330 --> 00:19:27,840 understandably is the go-to thing for 444 00:19:30,860 --> 00:19:29,340 people that not only don't want to 445 00:19:33,590 --> 00:19:30,870 believe a story never will believe a 446 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:33,600 story it doesn't matter if a UFO or an 447 00:19:36,830 --> 00:19:35,250 alien you know lands and talks with 448 00:19:39,530 --> 00:19:36,840 these individuals they don't want to 449 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:39,540 believe it this is normal the end look 450 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:41,970 we should all be skeptical and this is 451 00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:44,010 you know something that has been a you 452 00:19:49,940 --> 00:19:47,280 know an issue from the very beginning of 453 00:19:51,890 --> 00:19:49,950 Bob's story so you know no look there's 454 00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:51,900 nothing off-limits man you know I just 455 00:19:56,660 --> 00:19:54,390 don't answer idiots on line because they 456 00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:56,670 ask stupid questions to get a reaction 457 00:20:00,880 --> 00:19:59,280 III just don't have time for it what 458 00:20:04,070 --> 00:20:00,890 you're asking is is you know very 459 00:20:07,550 --> 00:20:04,080 legitimate and you know look I'll start 460 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:07,560 by saying that Bob's best credentials or 461 00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:12,210 his ability that's to begin I have seen 462 00:20:17,450 --> 00:20:14,400 Bob in action I've seen him pick up 463 00:20:19,490 --> 00:20:17,460 phone calls on a regular basis at United 464 00:20:21,950 --> 00:20:19,500 nuclear and talk about the you know 465 00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:21,960 elemental isotopic you know ratios of 466 00:20:26,420 --> 00:20:23,760 anything you could think of that the 467 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:26,430 dude is so smart he's so knowledgeable 468 00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:28,890 and I don't know many people that built 469 00:20:33,470 --> 00:20:31,740 not one but two particle accelerators in 470 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:33,480 their living spaces you know I mean the 471 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:35,370 guy's pretty incredible that's insane 472 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:38,130 first yeah so and and that is true and 473 00:20:41,450 --> 00:20:39,570 there's a whole store and get into it 474 00:20:43,910 --> 00:20:41,460 and it's an incredible story but look 475 00:20:46,490 --> 00:20:43,920 Bob his best credentials are his ability 476 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,500 and that's personal I can just tell you 477 00:20:50,690 --> 00:20:48,480 that to begin with but you know let's 478 00:20:53,570 --> 00:20:50,700 well first of all I do want to say I I 479 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:53,580 do address this in my movie my movie is 480 00:21:00,350 --> 00:20:58,650 not an ABCD of you know this is Pro and 481 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:00,360 this is against Bob story this is Pro 482 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:02,130 Bob so and this is against Bob so that's 483 00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:04,650 not my intent at all with my film my 484 00:21:09,740 --> 00:21:06,960 film is much bigger and smarter than 485 00:21:10,730 --> 00:21:09,750 that however this is something that I 486 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:10,740 talk about in the movie 487 00:21:14,780 --> 00:21:12,690 so you know let me just kind of hit the 488 00:21:16,370 --> 00:21:14,790 nail on the head here and say that you 489 00:21:18,290 --> 00:21:16,380 know this is something that we've never 490 00:21:20,330 --> 00:21:18,300 been able to prove we've never been able 491 00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:20,340 to prove exactly the schooling and the 492 00:21:24,140 --> 00:21:22,350 education of bob lazar and i don't know 493 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:24,150 if we ever will be able to definitively 494 00:21:28,610 --> 00:21:26,490 prove it however George Knapp has 495 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:28,620 addressed this head-on many times and 496 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:30,690 he's gone on record with it you know 497 00:21:35,210 --> 00:21:32,850 talking with individuals who you know 498 00:21:37,940 --> 00:21:35,220 back before bob was bob the UFO guy in 499 00:21:40,130 --> 00:21:37,950 los angeles and he was going to Caltech 500 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:40,140 you know people were dropping him off at 501 00:21:45,590 --> 00:21:42,210 school picking him up from the library 502 00:21:47,900 --> 00:21:45,600 so if he was faking it before this big 503 00:21:50,419 --> 00:21:47,910 UFO circus you know he's doing a damn 504 00:21:53,180 --> 00:21:50,429 good job you know so you know we just 505 00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:53,190 don't have the proof you know you know 506 00:21:57,890 --> 00:21:55,679 right now in the public realm you know 507 00:21:59,840 --> 00:21:57,900 of these things like MIT and Caltech but 508 00:22:01,370 --> 00:21:59,850 there's all this circumstantial data and 509 00:22:03,740 --> 00:22:01,380 all the circumstantial evidence and it's 510 00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:03,750 interesting and I do address it in my 511 00:22:09,470 --> 00:22:06,960 movie so I hope that satisfies you now 512 00:22:11,210 --> 00:22:09,480 Ryan before watching my movie before the 513 00:22:13,340 --> 00:22:11,220 movie comes out to let you know that 514 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:13,350 that is addressed however I do want to 515 00:22:16,660 --> 00:22:15,450 remind everybody of something and I want 516 00:22:20,990 --> 00:22:16,670 to remind them of something really 517 00:22:24,049 --> 00:22:21,000 extremely important which is look would 518 00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:24,059 a certificate a credential from Bob 519 00:22:30,260 --> 00:22:28,110 Lazar would that prove to you the 520 00:22:32,210 --> 00:22:30,270 existence of UFOs and s4 and 521 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:32,220 back-engineering alien spacecraft you 522 00:22:37,780 --> 00:22:34,890 know no no wouldn't it wouldn't it's 523 00:22:42,110 --> 00:22:37,790 your desire to know is Bob Lazar a liar 524 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:42,120 or is he honest now that's the real 525 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:42,809 question 526 00:22:46,220 --> 00:22:44,730 isn't that more important than anything 527 00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:46,230 that's really why you're asking these 528 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:48,240 questions about schooling so you know 529 00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,610 look I hope that my film does give you 530 00:22:54,169 --> 00:22:52,559 insight one of the beautiful things that 531 00:22:56,419 --> 00:22:54,179 somebody said to me in the process of 532 00:22:58,790 --> 00:22:56,429 filming is if you want to know the truth 533 00:23:00,919 --> 00:22:58,800 about UFOs you don't got a look at your 534 00:23:03,140 --> 00:23:00,929 foes you just got to know the truth 535 00:23:04,850 --> 00:23:03,150 about Bob Lazar what his friends think 536 00:23:06,049 --> 00:23:04,860 who are the people closest to him for 537 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:06,059 thirty years people that knew him before 538 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:09,690 the UFO days is he generally is he the 539 00:23:14,930 --> 00:23:11,120 kind of person that would waste his time 540 00:23:15,730 --> 00:23:14,940 creating the the greatest elaborate wool 541 00:23:18,650 --> 00:23:15,740 over your eyes 542 00:23:21,919 --> 00:23:18,660 lying conspiracy of all time you know is 543 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:21,929 that something Bob would even do so it's 544 00:23:24,380 --> 00:23:23,970 that question of who he is 545 00:23:25,730 --> 00:23:24,390 that I think 546 00:23:27,470 --> 00:23:25,740 is really important to look at so you 547 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:27,480 can't just de humanize the messenger and 548 00:23:32,090 --> 00:23:29,850 then if we get to the point we're 549 00:23:34,910 --> 00:23:32,100 willing to hear what Bob has to say then 550 00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:34,920 we get to the point where we're at we're 551 00:23:39,620 --> 00:23:37,200 hearing something that might be 552 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:39,630 incredible it might be something that is 553 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:42,090 transforming now I will also remind you 554 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:43,290 Bob 555 00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:47,970 was a physicist at Los Alamos and one of 556 00:23:53,870 --> 00:23:49,980 the things that critics say is like well 557 00:23:55,570 --> 00:23:53,880 he was with a subcontractor holy hell do 558 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:55,580 you know it's harder to get a job with a 559 00:23:59,480 --> 00:23:57,570 subcontractor to go to Los Alamos you 560 00:24:01,400 --> 00:23:59,490 need to prove your credentials more to 561 00:24:03,770 --> 00:24:01,410 do that then if you get hired just by 562 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:03,780 Los Alamos do you think he just got 563 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:06,570 hired out of high school he had to 564 00:24:12,020 --> 00:24:08,970 present credentials in order to be hired 565 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:12,030 by a subcontractor to Kirk Maier to work 566 00:24:17,150 --> 00:24:14,970 at Los Alamos and I know for a fact and 567 00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:17,160 have proven ten times over so has George 568 00:24:22,010 --> 00:24:19,110 Knapp that he worked as a physicist at 569 00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:22,020 the maison particle accelerator at Los 570 00:24:25,790 --> 00:24:24,000 Alamos I even got to the point where I 571 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:25,800 have his medical records and because of 572 00:24:29,450 --> 00:24:27,570 the HEPA HIPAA laws or whatever it can't 573 00:24:32,810 --> 00:24:29,460 be released you know but the guy that 574 00:24:35,210 --> 00:24:32,820 actually digitized them called me so he 575 00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:35,220 was there he was a physicist he was in 576 00:24:38,150 --> 00:24:36,720 security briefings with people that I 577 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:38,160 have proved all their credentials and I 578 00:24:41,450 --> 00:24:40,050 proved that years ago and George Knapp 579 00:24:44,060 --> 00:24:41,460 proved that years ago George Knapp was 580 00:24:46,550 --> 00:24:44,070 in Los Alamos with Bob Lazar on camera 581 00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:46,560 and there are some snips above going 582 00:24:51,410 --> 00:24:48,840 around Los Alamos in my movie so so look 583 00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:51,420 everybody could just kind of like focus 584 00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:53,520 on that if they want and then they're 585 00:24:58,670 --> 00:24:56,400 gonna miss the big picture we will 586 00:25:00,200 --> 00:24:58,680 address it it's important to address and 587 00:25:03,530 --> 00:25:00,210 I feel like we just [\h__\h] addressed it 588 00:25:05,390 --> 00:25:03,540 but it's up to you how much do you how 589 00:25:07,370 --> 00:25:05,400 much weight do you put on that and why 590 00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:07,380 and then you get to the rest of his 591 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:08,640 story so that's all I have to say before 592 00:25:14,690 --> 00:25:11,970 the movie comes out is uh yeah I don't 593 00:25:17,090 --> 00:25:14,700 know focus on that if you want I have 594 00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:17,100 always been very skeptical of all as our 595 00:25:21,860 --> 00:25:19,860 story but I will say this when it comes 596 00:25:24,890 --> 00:25:21,870 to the individuals who broke this story 597 00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:24,900 and people who are going as deep as you 598 00:25:29,870 --> 00:25:26,880 are I don't think people realize how 599 00:25:32,810 --> 00:25:29,880 critical you and people like George 600 00:25:36,110 --> 00:25:32,820 Knapp actually are of all this and every 601 00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:36,120 time you challenge Lazar he's able to 602 00:25:40,909 --> 00:25:37,950 prove to you that this 603 00:25:43,460 --> 00:25:40,919 the [\h__\h] happened i if there's one thing 604 00:25:45,950 --> 00:25:43,470 that i always tell people when they ask 605 00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:45,960 me what do i think of this story i tell 606 00:25:54,409 --> 00:25:50,880 them i don't care what you know in terms 607 00:25:56,899 --> 00:25:54,419 of what actually went on there the fact 608 00:25:59,690 --> 00:25:56,909 of the matter is I firmly believe Bob 609 00:26:02,180 --> 00:25:59,700 Lazar saw and experienced what he says 610 00:26:04,370 --> 00:26:02,190 he saw an experience what that is beyond 611 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:04,380 that point is a completely different 612 00:26:09,259 --> 00:26:06,570 realm it's way bigger picture than any 613 00:26:10,940 --> 00:26:09,269 of us can possibly imagine but that's 614 00:26:13,070 --> 00:26:10,950 what I like to hear in terms of what 615 00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:13,080 you're doing with this is getting to the 616 00:26:18,350 --> 00:26:16,080 core of this man and then seeing where 617 00:26:20,139 --> 00:26:18,360 it goes from there that this from what 618 00:26:23,299 --> 00:26:20,149 I'm gathering the film isn't so much 619 00:26:26,450 --> 00:26:23,309 proving or disproving was our story it's 620 00:26:28,820 --> 00:26:26,460 the message it's what he has taken from 621 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:28,830 these 30 years being like dragged into 622 00:26:35,149 --> 00:26:32,010 the sand yeah coming forward well don't 623 00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:35,159 know don't get me wrong oh yeah no I'm 624 00:26:39,789 --> 00:26:37,710 I'm yeah I worked hard man from that 625 00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,799 years I I have new evidence in the film 626 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:42,000 absolutely there's a few gems in there 627 00:26:47,149 --> 00:26:44,250 that I think you're gonna blow you away 628 00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:47,159 you know don't get me wrong man I look I 629 00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:50,159 I am skeptical - remember I told you at 630 00:26:53,180 --> 00:26:51,600 the beginning this interview I wanted to 631 00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:53,190 know the truth yeah because I felt like 632 00:26:58,009 --> 00:26:55,919 it was critical and I'm not a pushover 633 00:27:00,019 --> 00:26:58,019 I don't focus on people that I think for 634 00:27:02,539 --> 00:27:00,029 a second if they're lying to me not for 635 00:27:05,509 --> 00:27:02,549 a second I will expose them I'll expose 636 00:27:06,980 --> 00:27:05,519 them really hard so no I you know I'm 637 00:27:08,509 --> 00:27:06,990 glad you realize that people call me to 638 00:27:10,639 --> 00:27:08,519 be on their TV shows all the time as 639 00:27:14,060 --> 00:27:10,649 like you know the UFO guy like you don't 640 00:27:16,190 --> 00:27:14,070 understand whom I approached clearly I 641 00:27:19,490 --> 00:27:16,200 am skeptical - I am skeptical of 642 00:27:21,919 --> 00:27:19,500 skeptics in fact so you know look what 643 00:27:26,930 --> 00:27:21,929 is going on here in this film well 644 00:27:30,350 --> 00:27:26,940 hopefully satisfy the absolute fanatic 645 00:27:33,379 --> 00:27:30,360 of Lazar and then it will satisfy the 646 00:27:38,060 --> 00:27:33,389 absolute newbie who has never heard his 647 00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,070 story there are many like Easter eggs in 648 00:27:43,639 --> 00:27:41,039 my film things that only hardcores will 649 00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:43,649 see there there there are embedded 650 00:27:48,019 --> 00:27:45,630 layers in this film as all I'm gonna say 651 00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:48,029 of things that you can you can see upon 652 00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:51,030 multiple viewings if you take your time 653 00:27:56,810 --> 00:27:54,480 i-i really play to both the hardcore 654 00:28:00,050 --> 00:27:56,820 fans like i am and then people who have 655 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:00,060 never you know ever even heard the Lazar 656 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:01,290 name before 657 00:28:06,620 --> 00:28:04,290 well i am telling the truth i I've tried 658 00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:06,630 to prove that what's going on up there 659 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:08,520 could be the most important event in 660 00:28:14,570 --> 00:28:10,890 history you're talking about contact 661 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:14,580 physical physical contact and proof from 662 00:28:19,250 --> 00:28:16,530 another another system another planet 663 00:28:21,620 --> 00:28:19,260 and other intelligence that's got to be 664 00:28:23,930 --> 00:28:21,630 the biggest event in history period and 665 00:28:25,610 --> 00:28:23,940 it's real and it's real and it's there 666 00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:25,620 so yeah I think this film is gonna touch 667 00:28:32,060 --> 00:28:28,500 upon all of those nerves for people and 668 00:28:37,220 --> 00:28:32,070 it is a hardcore film however it does 669 00:28:39,530 --> 00:28:37,230 give you the much-needed face to Bob 670 00:28:42,290 --> 00:28:39,540 Lazar that you've never seen that's why 671 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:42,300 the poster of my movie Ari or his iconic 672 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:44,610 glasses like the man that was erased the 673 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:47,730 man who you don't know who he really is 674 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:50,490 and after this movie you are going to 675 00:28:55,550 --> 00:28:52,890 understand much more deeply who Bob 676 00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:55,560 Lazar actually is and and I want to 677 00:29:00,500 --> 00:28:57,600 address something that was in my last 678 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:00,510 movie kind of like buffoon idiots will 679 00:29:04,580 --> 00:29:02,130 make this these statements like oh 680 00:29:11,230 --> 00:29:04,590 there's nothing new in the skinwalker 681 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:14,080 that I have solved the paranormal 682 00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:17,610 mystery of all time and providing you 683 00:29:21,950 --> 00:29:19,200 the undeniable proof of the paranormal 684 00:29:23,570 --> 00:29:21,960 in that movie are you kidding me and 685 00:29:25,490 --> 00:29:23,580 then people that said there was nothing 686 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:25,500 new in that movie okay so you did have 687 00:29:30,050 --> 00:29:27,930 Robert Bigelow on camera talking about 688 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:30,060 skinwalker ranch before my movie you did 689 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:32,490 no you didn't you did have the new owner 690 00:29:37,550 --> 00:29:35,250 go on camera before my movie no no you 691 00:29:39,620 --> 00:29:37,560 didn't did you you also had footage on 692 00:29:41,210 --> 00:29:39,630 skinwalker ranch that you know both 693 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:41,220 historically with George Neffs footage 694 00:29:46,790 --> 00:29:43,770 you know 25 years ago as well as current 695 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:46,800 footage today no you didn't you did know 696 00:29:51,140 --> 00:29:48,690 about these government programs that 697 00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:51,150 utilize 22 million dollars to study 698 00:29:55,820 --> 00:29:54,000 skinwalker ranch you barely did because 699 00:29:58,100 --> 00:29:55,830 of George Knapp yeah so everybody can 700 00:29:59,390 --> 00:29:58,110 basically eat one right there I'm gonna 701 00:30:04,130 --> 00:29:59,400 tell you something about the Lazar film 702 00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:04,140 if you for a second just for a second Oh 703 00:30:08,810 --> 00:30:06,480 your mind what you're about to see not 704 00:30:11,450 --> 00:30:08,820 only do you have historic footage that 705 00:30:13,460 --> 00:30:11,460 has never before been seen you have 706 00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:13,470 evidence that has never before been 707 00:30:21,140 --> 00:30:16,710 brought to the table most importantly 708 00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:21,150 you have brand-new hours of footage 709 00:30:24,290 --> 00:30:22,350 because I have two and a half hours of 710 00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:24,300 bonus materials as well for the film you 711 00:30:27,980 --> 00:30:26,460 are the king of that no it's very 712 00:30:29,810 --> 00:30:27,990 important I'll explain that right it's 713 00:30:33,340 --> 00:30:29,820 very important great but um you've got 714 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:33,350 you've got the man himself telling you 715 00:30:39,230 --> 00:30:36,570 details of his story so so basically 716 00:30:41,150 --> 00:30:39,240 just get excited for it why I'm the king 717 00:30:43,250 --> 00:30:41,160 of bonus material rounds cuz I can only 718 00:30:45,140 --> 00:30:43,260 fit an hour and a half you know maybe 719 00:30:48,650 --> 00:30:45,150 two hours into a film you're telling a 720 00:30:52,490 --> 00:30:48,660 30-year story man I mean so ready so as 721 00:30:54,590 --> 00:30:52,500 a fan myself I embed gems into the bonus 722 00:30:57,020 --> 00:30:54,600 material and look and you can get the 723 00:30:59,440 --> 00:30:57,030 bonus material from iTunes and Vimeo I 724 00:31:02,510 --> 00:30:59,450 want to be very clear not all platforms 725 00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:02,520 support bonus material and there's over 726 00:31:06,650 --> 00:31:03,600 two hours of bonus material for this 727 00:31:07,940 --> 00:31:06,660 film and you can only get it on iTunes 728 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:07,950 and Vimeo because those are the only 729 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:10,050 platforms that hold it so don't get mad 730 00:31:13,940 --> 00:31:11,970 at me if you didn't hear me I'm telling 731 00:31:16,850 --> 00:31:13,950 you get the bonus material by buying on 732 00:31:17,930 --> 00:31:16,860 those two platforms but the reason the 733 00:31:19,730 --> 00:31:17,940 bonus bateau is so important is because 734 00:31:21,290 --> 00:31:19,740 there's just so much stuff you can't put 735 00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:21,300 in a movie because of the flow of a 736 00:31:24,110 --> 00:31:22,710 movie and keeping people's attention and 737 00:31:25,820 --> 00:31:24,120 wanting them to get the big picture the 738 00:31:28,010 --> 00:31:25,830 story so that's where you get a lot of 739 00:31:29,870 --> 00:31:28,020 the details that's why it's so important 740 00:31:32,330 --> 00:31:29,880 to watch those things I mean you get 741 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:32,340 some incredible stuff in those bonuses 742 00:31:36,530 --> 00:31:33,570 but that's why I do that right it's the 743 00:31:39,290 --> 00:31:36,540 format of the medium itself Oh 744 00:31:40,490 --> 00:31:39,300 completely and as a filmmaker myself I 745 00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:40,500 completely understand 746 00:31:45,950 --> 00:31:43,110 you know you want to tell this huge 747 00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:45,960 story and when it comes to editing and 748 00:31:49,730 --> 00:31:48,000 structure and format you can only do so 749 00:31:51,530 --> 00:31:49,740 much it's the most frustrating thing I 750 00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:51,540 think as an artist to have your work 751 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:53,760 chopped and cut but at the end of the 752 00:31:57,260 --> 00:31:55,530 day like that's just the reality of the 753 00:31:58,970 --> 00:31:57,270 situation I completely understand that 754 00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:58,980 well it's great your people should feel 755 00:32:01,940 --> 00:32:00,720 lucky they get so much extra footage if 756 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:01,950 they buy on those platforms that's 757 00:32:06,020 --> 00:32:03,810 pretty cool Oh totally and the fact that 758 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:06,030 you're willing to share those I think as 759 00:32:13,550 --> 00:32:09,450 well in terms of that I do have sort of 760 00:32:15,770 --> 00:32:13,560 a filmmaker question here and um when in 761 00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:15,780 terms of footage in this film without 762 00:32:19,340 --> 00:32:17,940 you know I giving away too much I know 763 00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:19,350 the film hasn't premiered yet in 764 00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:22,080 everything but in the final cut was 765 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:25,620 there anything that you weren't able to 766 00:32:30,139 --> 00:32:27,690 get in there or that Bob's like 767 00:32:32,810 --> 00:32:30,149 specifically wanted you to remove I have 768 00:32:34,970 --> 00:32:32,820 to ask I know people are wondering that 769 00:32:37,129 --> 00:32:34,980 oh wow that's very and you haven't 770 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:37,139 watched the movie yet I know I know it's 771 00:32:42,289 --> 00:32:39,330 a little oh no no that's that's very 772 00:32:45,409 --> 00:32:42,299 that's a powerful question for not 773 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:45,419 having seen the movie I know are you 774 00:32:52,190 --> 00:32:48,809 sure you haven't seen the movie oh wow 775 00:32:55,249 --> 00:32:52,200 yeah there is a very dramatic series of 776 00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:55,259 events okay okay yeah I mean we can 777 00:32:58,279 --> 00:32:57,120 leave it at that completely yeah yeah 778 00:33:00,799 --> 00:32:58,289 well let me think about I'm gonna talk 779 00:33:02,869 --> 00:33:00,809 around it I want people to look I'm an 780 00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:02,879 independent filmmaker you know if you 781 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:04,409 steal my movie or you post it somewhere 782 00:33:07,970 --> 00:33:05,850 like you know I'm not gonna be able to 783 00:33:10,129 --> 00:33:07,980 make more of them you know just do me 784 00:33:12,379 --> 00:33:10,139 this small favor and just like buy my 785 00:33:15,259 --> 00:33:12,389 movie the you know like just buy it 786 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:15,269 because of that really helps me but with 787 00:33:23,629 --> 00:33:17,250 that said I think I can go a little bit 788 00:33:26,930 --> 00:33:23,639 further yes there is a lot that was very 789 00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:26,940 sensitive and you will see what happened 790 00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:30,960 in the movie and I'll tell you man to 791 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:34,320 man person to person and ah you know to 792 00:33:39,019 --> 00:33:36,690 your audience what you see in the movie 793 00:33:42,019 --> 00:33:39,029 actually happened it's real 794 00:33:45,070 --> 00:33:42,029 it happened take that for what it's 795 00:33:47,779 --> 00:33:45,080 worth when you see the movie have you 796 00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:47,789 Jeremy have you personally received any 797 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:50,129 sort of threats or anything this is a 798 00:33:56,869 --> 00:33:53,210 listener question in terms of or even 799 00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:56,879 governmental or agency wise with making 800 00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:00,480 this film any pushback whatsoever well 801 00:34:12,139 --> 00:34:08,129 you have to watch my film on okay okay 802 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:12,149 so what is I think it's disgusting and 803 00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:13,290 ridiculous 804 00:34:20,210 --> 00:34:17,520 when these UFO people that we you know 805 00:34:23,389 --> 00:34:20,220 get these big forums and they become the 806 00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:23,399 answer and the cure and they essentially 807 00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:25,919 take advantage of everybody in everybody 808 00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:27,569 and their mothers after them if their 809 00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:29,609 emails crash it was the government and 810 00:34:36,249 --> 00:34:31,379 these people are just 811 00:34:39,950 --> 00:34:36,259 they're nuts right I have received zero 812 00:34:42,379 --> 00:34:39,960 resistance and only assistance from 813 00:34:44,359 --> 00:34:42,389 people in positions of power from either 814 00:34:46,129 --> 00:34:44,369 intelligence communities or you know 815 00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:46,139 government positions or you know 816 00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:48,000 journalists and you know insiders 817 00:34:55,789 --> 00:34:51,839 anybody know people come to me not to 818 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:55,799 harm me or hurt me or slow my roll you 819 00:34:59,660 --> 00:34:57,930 know they come to help me and maybe 820 00:35:02,299 --> 00:34:59,670 again it's my charming personality I 821 00:35:05,059 --> 00:35:02,309 don't know Ryan but no I have never 822 00:35:07,309 --> 00:35:05,069 received that kind of negative you know 823 00:35:11,059 --> 00:35:07,319 there have been people that have tried 824 00:35:13,609 --> 00:35:11,069 to divert me that I will admit to but I 825 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:13,619 quickly smell that and see that and I 826 00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:16,410 have great mentor in my life and people 827 00:35:19,609 --> 00:35:17,910 that can tell me hey watch out for this 828 00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:19,619 guy they're trying to divert your 829 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:22,049 attention but but that's really been the 830 00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:24,890 worst of it the only actual physical 831 00:35:28,279 --> 00:35:26,910 threats and they have been you know 832 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:28,289 they're horrific people are just so 833 00:35:32,420 --> 00:35:30,450 horrible are just you know viewers and 834 00:35:35,150 --> 00:35:32,430 listeners and people that write in and 835 00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:35,160 say you know mean evil cruel stuff 836 00:35:39,289 --> 00:35:37,200 because they feel very small themselves 837 00:35:41,539 --> 00:35:39,299 so they feel like my facebook is their 838 00:35:44,660 --> 00:35:41,549 one place to try to grow a pair of balls 839 00:35:46,249 --> 00:35:44,670 you know it's it's just unfortunate but 840 00:35:48,769 --> 00:35:46,259 you know that's not government that 841 00:35:50,779 --> 00:35:48,779 that's unfortunately that's that's just 842 00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:50,789 people those are what they call haters 843 00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:53,640 you know I don't got time for my mean if 844 00:35:58,430 --> 00:35:56,160 they knew how quickly I stopped reading 845 00:36:01,249 --> 00:35:58,440 when I see the first piece of negative 846 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:01,259 profanity instead of a profanity that 847 00:36:05,450 --> 00:36:02,970 exemplifies what you're saying so yeah I 848 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:05,460 don't listen to it no I've never been 849 00:36:10,849 --> 00:36:08,130 resisted always assisted and I've got 850 00:36:12,769 --> 00:36:10,859 great sources as you know I broke you 851 00:36:14,779 --> 00:36:12,779 know the tick tock UFO story prior to 852 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:14,789 the New York Times very clearly yeah 853 00:36:18,650 --> 00:36:16,650 yeah I think a lot of people tend to 854 00:36:21,950 --> 00:36:18,660 forget that you know to the stars was 855 00:36:23,329 --> 00:36:21,960 not the first one the scene guys used it 856 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:23,339 as the tip of the spear and I think they 857 00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:24,450 should have been I think it was really 858 00:36:27,470 --> 00:36:25,920 great that they did because commander 859 00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,480 framers a great witness and a good 860 00:36:32,990 --> 00:36:30,000 friend and a great witness but my point 861 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:33,000 to you a listener question bigger topic 862 00:36:37,819 --> 00:36:35,970 Ryan is just that we can become so self 863 00:36:39,499 --> 00:36:37,829 obsessed that we think you know 864 00:36:41,809 --> 00:36:39,509 everybody's out to get us that's that's 865 00:36:44,359 --> 00:36:41,819 UFO disease but I've had just the 866 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:44,369 opposite people have helped me they have 867 00:36:46,730 --> 00:36:44,970 guided 868 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:46,740 me they have stopped me from wasting my 869 00:36:50,810 --> 00:36:48,570 time on things and I'm very grateful it 870 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:50,820 appreciate it for it and I do not work 871 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:52,710 for anybody else I do not work for any 872 00:36:58,220 --> 00:36:55,770 agency in fact I am a completely 873 00:37:01,280 --> 00:36:58,230 independent filmmaker so when I say like 874 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:01,290 when I make a film I fund everything 875 00:37:07,339 --> 00:37:04,050 I've never taken a penny not a single 876 00:37:10,220 --> 00:37:07,349 penny to make any of my films I do this 877 00:37:12,349 --> 00:37:10,230 on my own I mean I look I I manage 878 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:12,359 apartments man I I have royalties from 879 00:37:18,980 --> 00:37:15,090 my martial arts days like I'm I do this 880 00:37:21,770 --> 00:37:18,990 on my own and so it directly benefits me 881 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:21,780 if people like my work and they vote 882 00:37:25,580 --> 00:37:23,490 with their dollars and they purchase my 883 00:37:27,290 --> 00:37:25,590 work then you know I make money and I 884 00:37:27,830 --> 00:37:27,300 can make more films it's as simple as 885 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:27,840 that 886 00:37:35,060 --> 00:37:33,210 example Bob Lazar nothing he's receiving 887 00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:35,070 nothing for this and he wanted nothing 888 00:37:38,570 --> 00:37:36,000 for this film 889 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:38,580 not a penny we held a pre premier like a 890 00:37:43,070 --> 00:37:39,930 private screening for family and friends 891 00:37:46,940 --> 00:37:43,080 in Michigan and they charged for tickets 892 00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:46,950 and Bob immediately had them right I saw 893 00:37:52,099 --> 00:37:48,750 it that night had them write the check 894 00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:52,109 for local science programs to support 895 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:55,710 local sites like you know people just if 896 00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:57,570 they think otherwise it's because 897 00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:58,890 they're on the outside looking in they 898 00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:00,960 don't know Bob and I just want to kind 899 00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:03,390 of clarify to you about my films because 900 00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:05,160 people are very mysterious about it I 901 00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,609 saw that online you know by a friend of 902 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:10,800 mine actually it was what the hell no I 903 00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:13,530 I self fund everything man I'm very open 904 00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:14,640 about that I've said that from day one 905 00:38:18,410 --> 00:38:16,320 yeah that's been out there for a long 906 00:38:21,230 --> 00:38:18,420 time so you know it's not easy man it's 907 00:38:23,089 --> 00:38:21,240 not easy man you know you don't know if 908 00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:23,099 movies gonna do well you know tell me 909 00:38:29,150 --> 00:38:26,040 about it yeah well I mean okay so in 910 00:38:30,890 --> 00:38:29,160 terms of your films overall man is there 911 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:30,900 any sort of patterns you're picking up 912 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:32,490 in terms of the phenomena you're 913 00:38:37,250 --> 00:38:34,410 covering or is it all just like a big 914 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:37,260 mixed bag of weird [\h__\h] what do you 915 00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:38,690 think is going on and what really 916 00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:41,430 gravitates you towards certain phenomena 917 00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:44,609 or or topics to cover well I try to 918 00:38:49,970 --> 00:38:47,760 focus on the people that I find the most 919 00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:49,980 credible to begin with you know even 920 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:51,510 from back in the day when I put out the 921 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:53,010 anonymous interview for the Citizen 922 00:38:56,930 --> 00:38:55,050 hearing right yeah you know Reuben 923 00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:56,940 Langdon the unsung hero of the Citizen 924 00:39:00,420 --> 00:38:58,570 hearing who made everything happening 925 00:39:02,220 --> 00:39:00,430 he's the one you should focus on not 926 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:02,230 other charlatans and people reaching out 927 00:39:07,950 --> 00:39:04,930 he's the one Rubin Langdon he's one that 928 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:07,960 made that happen man and some amazing 929 00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:09,850 things had happened from that but from 930 00:39:13,830 --> 00:39:11,440 the very beginning when my filmmaking 931 00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:13,840 you know aiming my camera and using my 932 00:39:17,070 --> 00:39:15,730 camera as a passport you know into 933 00:39:20,490 --> 00:39:17,080 people's lives which it really has 934 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:20,500 become I do see a pattern and I I do see 935 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:23,050 a you know developments of my 936 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:25,290 understanding of the phenomenon 937 00:39:31,590 --> 00:39:28,450 skinwalker hunt for the skinwalker my 938 00:39:33,770 --> 00:39:31,600 movie that one opened my eyes it did 939 00:39:37,350 --> 00:39:33,780 because of the people I was exposed to 940 00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:37,360 the direct evidence and stories that I 941 00:39:43,110 --> 00:39:39,910 was exposed to I would say that really 942 00:39:45,180 --> 00:39:43,120 opened my eyes I I think that we've 943 00:39:47,580 --> 00:39:45,190 learned a lot we have learned a lot 944 00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:47,590 let's look at the bob lazar story which 945 00:39:52,140 --> 00:39:49,990 is a very nuts-and-bolts story right bob 946 00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:52,150 is like the least woo guy you've ever 947 00:39:56,190 --> 00:39:54,430 met you know he is more skeptical of 948 00:39:59,280 --> 00:39:56,200 UFOs and UFO people and you're both 949 00:40:01,020 --> 00:39:59,290 stuff then anybody I've ever met 950 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:01,030 oh you don't have to tell me yeah he 951 00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:03,970 he's very reluctant to speak to UFO 952 00:40:09,180 --> 00:40:06,880 people well yeah I mean it's not that he 953 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:09,190 dislikes UFO people they just haven't 954 00:40:13,260 --> 00:40:11,050 been kind to him and a lot of that a lot 955 00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:13,270 of us are absolutely crazy I mean we you 956 00:40:16,350 --> 00:40:14,800 know we have our own agendas you know 957 00:40:17,250 --> 00:40:16,360 it's like Bob Bob just likes the folks 958 00:40:20,010 --> 00:40:17,260 on the side so this is very 959 00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:20,020 nuts-and-bolts story a very nuts and 960 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:21,520 bolts case it's very straightforward 961 00:40:26,190 --> 00:40:23,890 it's it's very different than hunt for 962 00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:26,200 the skinwalker which is really hard to 963 00:40:30,750 --> 00:40:28,510 wrap your mind around but I think the I 964 00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:30,760 think what's important to say right now 965 00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:33,550 is what we learned in December of 2017 966 00:40:37,830 --> 00:40:35,350 through the New York Times on a global 967 00:40:40,380 --> 00:40:37,840 scale which some of us knew or suspected 968 00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:40,390 but now on a global scale is that the 969 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:43,260 United States government is actively 970 00:40:49,050 --> 00:40:46,570 studying the UFO phenomenon that it did 971 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:49,060 not end in 1969 with Project Blue Book 972 00:40:52,650 --> 00:40:50,770 as we have been told that our government 973 00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:52,660 was lying to us about that and that this 974 00:40:58,350 --> 00:40:56,560 program a tip was a reactionary program 975 00:41:00,570 --> 00:40:58,360 but there was an action airy program 976 00:41:03,180 --> 00:41:00,580 there was a proactive program and that 977 00:41:05,130 --> 00:41:03,190 was awesome and an a tip was not part of 978 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:05,140 us app there's a lot of lies and 979 00:41:08,820 --> 00:41:06,730 misunderstanding communication about 980 00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:08,830 that but that that's okay time will 981 00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:11,980 clarify here's the point we 982 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:13,750 now know that our government is 983 00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:15,730 intimately connected and interested in 984 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:18,310 the UFO phenomenon and from a 985 00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:19,930 nuts-and-bolts perspective and that 986 00:41:26,130 --> 00:41:22,000 sheds a completely different light on 987 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:26,140 what it is that Bob Lazar said in 1989 I 988 00:41:32,430 --> 00:41:29,770 know there are alien craft here from 989 00:41:35,070 --> 00:41:32,440 another planet I know I saw other ones 990 00:41:37,050 --> 00:41:35,080 but I was inside one I know who's not 991 00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:37,060 made on earth I know it was maybe with 992 00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:39,280 the materials that we cannot fabricate 993 00:41:43,859 --> 00:41:41,800 we cannot duplicate and we've never been 994 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:43,869 able to I know it uses a power source 995 00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:46,570 that's so advanced that we could only 996 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:48,760 dream of something along those lines and 997 00:41:54,090 --> 00:41:50,730 the energy density on it is phenomenal 998 00:41:57,630 --> 00:41:54,100 it's nothing that I would ever expect to 999 00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:57,640 see I also know that at some point 1000 00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:01,119 they've examined or had bodies of alien 1001 00:42:07,530 --> 00:42:03,550 creatures somewhere so I know that stuff 1002 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:07,540 for a fact and that's the bottom line 1003 00:42:13,170 --> 00:42:10,810 knowing Bob seeing Bob who he is in this 1004 00:42:14,660 --> 00:42:13,180 film and knowing the history now that 1005 00:42:18,359 --> 00:42:14,670 we've learned through the New York Times 1006 00:42:21,450 --> 00:42:18,369 puts his story in a completely different 1007 00:42:23,730 --> 00:42:21,460 modern light it's a great time for this 1008 00:42:25,530 --> 00:42:23,740 film to be coming out I have one more 1009 00:42:29,310 --> 00:42:25,540 question before we wrap things up here 1010 00:42:31,230 --> 00:42:29,320 and it has to do with one of the coolest 1011 00:42:35,060 --> 00:42:31,240 guys I've encountered in one ear films 1012 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:35,070 nano man by probably one of the few nano 1013 00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:36,850 technologists who are pushing the 1014 00:42:42,359 --> 00:42:40,030 envelope who know for a fact that the 1015 00:42:45,330 --> 00:42:42,369 extra-terrestrial technology is real 1016 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:45,340 it's possible and that's just an 1017 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:46,770 astounding Amell 1018 00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:50,130 of drawing and motivation to keep 1019 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:53,310 pushing the edge so I gotta ask you have 1020 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:55,170 you you've been talking to this guy 1021 00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:57,090 recently and are there any updates in 1022 00:43:00,350 --> 00:42:58,770 terms of the work you did with him and 1023 00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:00,360 the things he analyzed for you 1024 00:43:04,190 --> 00:43:03,510 in fact I am in so much trouble with 1025 00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:04,200 everybody 1026 00:43:10,220 --> 00:43:07,710 I owe him a call back okay so bad I'm 1027 00:43:11,660 --> 00:43:10,230 calling him red after this right after 1028 00:43:14,030 --> 00:43:11,670 this interview because you just reminded 1029 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:14,040 me I mean look Ryan I I don't know that 1030 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:15,930 people understand like I don't have a 1031 00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:18,450 production company I don't have a 1032 00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:20,400 hundred people that work for me on 1033 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:23,730 social media I don't have even an agent 1034 00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:26,130 or anything like I've got a lawyer who 1035 00:43:30,350 --> 00:43:28,350 lives in the jungle and he's the guy 1036 00:43:32,180 --> 00:43:30,360 that I talk with what I need you know to 1037 00:43:34,430 --> 00:43:32,190 figure out if I'm gonna make a move or 1038 00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:34,440 not but my point is I'm not an army dude 1039 00:43:41,420 --> 00:43:38,250 I'm one person and I cannot keep up with 1040 00:43:42,890 --> 00:43:41,430 the interest that is blowing up over the 1041 00:43:44,990 --> 00:43:42,900 skinwalker ranch movie hunt for the 1042 00:43:47,540 --> 00:43:45,000 skinwalker but then now with Lazarre so 1043 00:43:51,380 --> 00:43:47,550 I am so behind on everything but I will 1044 00:43:53,810 --> 00:43:51,390 say this nano man will have his day on 1045 00:43:55,730 --> 00:43:53,820 the screen and it's not gonna take 1046 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:55,740 forever that's all I had to hear my man 1047 00:44:00,590 --> 00:43:58,050 well give us a little bit about the 1048 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:00,600 premiere happening in LA not even two 1049 00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:02,970 weeks from now don't give me a heart 1050 00:44:09,140 --> 00:44:07,200 attack dude I know I know okay it's a 1051 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:09,150 month away how's that for you that's a 1052 00:44:13,850 --> 00:44:12,090 lie okay so yeah so the world premiere 1053 00:44:17,650 --> 00:44:13,860 of Bob Lazar 1054 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:17,660 area 51 and flying saucers narrated by 1055 00:44:23,450 --> 00:44:21,330 Mickey Rourke Oscar nominee for acting 1056 00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,460 right which is so exciting you know this 1057 00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:25,920 is gonna be in a historic theater that 1058 00:44:30,110 --> 00:44:27,780 was built by a bunch of friends one of 1059 00:44:32,990 --> 00:44:30,120 whom was Charlie Chaplin and it's in 1060 00:44:36,140 --> 00:44:33,000 downtown LA this theater is the most 1061 00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:36,150 majestic theater I have ever been you 1062 00:44:41,810 --> 00:44:38,720 know blessed to be able to sit in it is 1063 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:41,820 absolutely stunning or gossiped yeah 1064 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:44,490 gorgeous beautiful it has always been my 1065 00:44:48,020 --> 00:44:46,530 dream to be able to show a film there 1066 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:48,030 because I'll be showing films where the 1067 00:44:54,770 --> 00:44:50,130 greats have shown films you know 1068 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:54,780 Alejandro Jodorowsky we have oh my gosh 1069 00:44:59,570 --> 00:44:56,850 every you know Kenneth Anger these these 1070 00:45:00,560 --> 00:44:59,580 wild filmmakers who have done these 1071 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:00,570 incredible differ 1072 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:03,090 David Lynch holds festivals there every 1073 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:05,850 year I am so honored to be able to show 1074 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:07,530 my film there this has been a dream of 1075 00:45:11,470 --> 00:45:09,090 mine it's coming true 1076 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:11,480 December 3rd downtown Los Angeles 1077 00:45:16,850 --> 00:45:14,850 limited seats I made it Democratic it's 1078 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:16,860 20 bucks and everybody gets to come 1079 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:19,170 general admission I will be hosting with 1080 00:45:23,180 --> 00:45:21,330 George Knapp Bob Lazar I will make sure 1081 00:45:24,770 --> 00:45:23,190 that we do some gonna do an interesting 1082 00:45:26,030 --> 00:45:24,780 form of Q&A I think I think I'm gonna do 1083 00:45:27,410 --> 00:45:26,040 it through social media it's gonna be 1084 00:45:29,330 --> 00:45:27,420 really interesting oh cool 1085 00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,340 yeah I just want to you know kind of 1086 00:45:33,260 --> 00:45:31,200 have a really special evening set up for 1087 00:45:35,450 --> 00:45:33,270 everybody you know I got all these 1088 00:45:38,270 --> 00:45:35,460 posters I'm gonna break Bob's hand 1089 00:45:42,830 --> 00:45:38,280 having him sign these because that's the 1090 00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:42,840 one question everybody wants these that 1091 00:45:53,450 --> 00:45:44,640 was the number one question I got when I 1092 00:45:55,580 --> 00:45:53,460 opened this up the listeners and yeah 1093 00:45:57,620 --> 00:45:55,590 man look it's gonna be a really special 1094 00:45:59,540 --> 00:45:57,630 evening and I'm just now getting the 1095 00:46:01,400 --> 00:45:59,550 word out that's why I'm you know kind of 1096 00:46:03,110 --> 00:46:01,410 nervous about it like it's a it's a big 1097 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:03,120 night it's a dream come true this is the 1098 00:46:06,650 --> 00:46:04,650 film I always wanted to make because I 1099 00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:06,660 always wanted to know the truth about 1100 00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:10,800 flying saucers and making this film has 1101 00:46:14,420 --> 00:46:12,960 allowed me to know the truth and so I 1102 00:46:15,950 --> 00:46:14,430 hope that you get that as well 1103 00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:15,960 and I hope that we have a beautiful 1104 00:46:21,890 --> 00:46:19,440 celebratory night together and that's it 1105 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:21,900 my man it's gonna be a it's gonna be 1106 00:46:26,330 --> 00:46:23,970 something really something it's 1107 00:46:27,650 --> 00:46:26,340 Christmas come early for me Jeremy and I 1108 00:46:29,810 --> 00:46:27,660 don't just mean that as a fan of your 1109 00:46:33,410 --> 00:46:29,820 work but this this story has mystified 1110 00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:33,420 me since age 13 just like you man and I 1111 00:46:38,690 --> 00:46:35,280 I can't wait to see what you've 1112 00:46:40,670 --> 00:46:38,700 uncovered where I personally will stand 1113 00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:40,680 after this and where the public at large 1114 00:46:44,780 --> 00:46:42,510 will but when is it going to be 1115 00:46:46,580 --> 00:46:44,790 available to all of the public yes so 1116 00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:46,590 you can actually thank you for asking 1117 00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:49,440 that you can actually pre-order it right 1118 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:53,160 now as you're listening um vimeo.com is 1119 00:46:57,940 --> 00:46:55,170 this great place to preorder it because 1120 00:47:00,410 --> 00:46:57,950 you can watch that anywhere in the world 1121 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:00,420 iTunes is another place that has the 1122 00:47:05,330 --> 00:47:02,730 bonus material and again you can watch 1123 00:47:06,620 --> 00:47:05,340 that in most countries in the world but 1124 00:47:08,450 --> 00:47:06,630 you get bonus material with both of 1125 00:47:11,540 --> 00:47:08,460 those and then of course you've got like 1126 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:11,550 Amazon Google Play even Xbox and Vudu 1127 00:47:16,490 --> 00:47:14,130 and things like that all pay-per-view 1128 00:47:18,559 --> 00:47:16,500 pay-per-view platforms will hold it I 1129 00:47:20,779 --> 00:47:18,569 just think you should do Vimeo or iTunes 1130 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:20,789 because you get the bonus material which 1131 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:21,930 will eventually come out on its own 1132 00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:23,970 later anyway but there you go that's how 1133 00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:25,440 you watch the film you can pre-order it 1134 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:28,079 and that all drops this is so cool this 1135 00:47:33,980 --> 00:47:31,410 never happens when the movie ends at the 1136 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:33,990 premiere in Los Angeles the movie will 1137 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:36,930 stop about 9:30 5:00 p.m. on December 1138 00:47:43,069 --> 00:47:40,410 3rd it unlocks in the United States at 1139 00:47:45,470 --> 00:47:43,079 that moment it's it's supposed to unlock 1140 00:47:47,210 --> 00:47:45,480 on the 4th the next day but actually 1141 00:47:49,789 --> 00:47:47,220 from what I understand it unlocks at 1142 00:47:50,180 --> 00:47:49,799 exactly that moment so wouldn't that be 1143 00:47:56,299 --> 00:47:50,190 cool 1144 00:47:59,059 --> 00:47:56,309 or planned synchronicity planned exactly 1145 00:48:02,269 --> 00:47:59,069 we all choose our own destiny from there 1146 00:48:04,940 --> 00:48:02,279 we go dude thank you so much for for 1147 00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:04,950 doing this prior to the film I wanted to 1148 00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:06,960 give people a taste of sort of what to 1149 00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:09,599 expect and I know our conversations only 1150 00:48:14,180 --> 00:48:11,250 begun we're gonna do this again after 1151 00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:14,190 the film premieres after the public's 1152 00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:16,710 reaction and then the real conversation 1153 00:48:20,749 --> 00:48:19,529 is going to start and I cannot wait no 1154 00:48:22,759 --> 00:48:20,759 problem and you know I just want to say 1155 00:48:24,049 --> 00:48:22,769 after all this like fan feedback and all 1156 00:48:25,849 --> 00:48:24,059 this conversations going I just wanna 1157 00:48:27,950 --> 00:48:25,859 say I really appreciate the people that 1158 00:48:30,890 --> 00:48:27,960 have something positive and something 1159 00:48:33,799 --> 00:48:30,900 you know true questions let there let 1160 00:48:36,259 --> 00:48:33,809 them be scientific or personal I love 1161 00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:36,269 receiving actual questions and 1162 00:48:41,180 --> 00:48:39,599 good-hearted good spirited people that 1163 00:48:43,519 --> 00:48:41,190 are curious about the truth I will 1164 00:48:45,890 --> 00:48:43,529 answer everything to the best of my 1165 00:48:50,059 --> 00:48:45,900 ability if I feel you're not a [\h__\h] 1166 00:48:52,490 --> 00:48:50,069 and I am exact I'm absolutely excited to 1167 00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:52,500 engage the public on this matter and to 1168 00:49:02,269 --> 00:48:55,440 everybody else you know I I just got to 1169 00:49:04,460 --> 00:49:02,279 not apologize the mic yeah I am NOT you 1170 00:49:07,730 --> 00:49:04,470 know everybody else can eat one man but 1171 00:49:10,099 --> 00:49:07,740 if you have a sincere question and you'd 1172 00:49:13,549 --> 00:49:10,109 really like to actually know the answer 1173 00:49:16,249 --> 00:49:13,559 if you're kind and you're patient with 1174 00:49:18,049 --> 00:49:16,259 my time I will answer you and I am 1175 00:49:19,999 --> 00:49:18,059 excited too because we need to talk 1176 00:49:22,940 --> 00:49:20,009 about this this is important stuff if 1177 00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:22,950 you consider for a fraction of a second 1178 00:49:27,890 --> 00:49:25,710 that Bob Lazar could be telling you the 1179 00:49:29,870 --> 00:49:27,900 truth what is your next question 1180 00:49:31,549 --> 00:49:29,880 and that's what I think is important so 1181 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:31,559 everybody enjoy the movie it's gonna 1182 00:49:36,620 --> 00:49:33,930 open up the conversation it could change 1183 00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:36,630 everything Jeremy thank you so much for 1184 00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:37,260 joining me 1185 00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:39,089 thanks Ryan I really appreciate your 1186 00:49:42,589 --> 00:49:40,529 show I appreciate you having me on and 1187 00:49:46,180 --> 00:49:42,599 I'm really excited hear what your fans 1188 00:49:48,529 --> 00:49:46,190 have to say so yeah let's talk about it 1189 00:49:50,809 --> 00:49:48,539 that's it for this week's episode again 1190 00:49:52,339 --> 00:49:50,819 if you're in the Los Angeles area be 1191 00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:52,349 sure to grab tickets to the world 1192 00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:53,910 premiere of Bob Lazar 1193 00:49:59,390 --> 00:49:56,910 area 51 and flying saucers on December 1194 00:50:01,640 --> 00:49:59,400 3rd at the Ace Theatre in downtown Los 1195 00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:01,650 Angeles visit the theater at Ace Hotel 1196 00:50:06,769 --> 00:50:04,710 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